SURGING CORONAVIRUS CASES, WHEN
CAN WE SEE IT INJECTED INTO THE
ARMS OF AMERICANS, DOCTOR MATT
MCCARTHY JOINS US NOW, GOOD TO
SEE YOU HOW SOON BEFORE THE
VACCINE MAKES A DENT IN THE
SURGES THAT WE SEE PARTICULAR AS
WE SEE ROLLOUT IN THE UK?
>> IT’S GOING TO BE A LITTLE
BIT, THE ROLLOUT IS HAPPENING
SLOWER THAN WE LIKE BUT WE HAVE
TO REMEMBER THIS WAS A HOLIDAY
AND I EXPECT TO SEE THE ROLLOUT
STARTING TO PICK UP STEAM OVER
THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS,
ASTRAZENECA VACCINE IS REALLY
INTERESTING, THERE ARE TWO DOSES
IN THERE SAYING 70% EFFECTIVE
BUT THAT IS NOT QUITE RIGHT, 62%
OF EFFECTIVE OF ONE DOSE AND 95%
OF ANOTHER DOSE, BUT THE CALLING
IS 70% FOR NOW I’M KEEPING A
CLOSE EYE ON HOW THE ROLLOUT
PROCEEDS IN THE UK BECAUSE IT
WILL GIVE A LOT OF INFORMATION
OF HOW IT WILL PLAY OUT IN THE
UNITED STATES WHEN IT BECOMES
APPROVED IN THE SPRING.
DAVID: ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE
ARE HAVING HERE AND I’LL PUT UP
A FRONT PAGE FROM THE NEW YORK
POST WE HAVE A LOT OF VACCINE
BUT IT’S NOT BEEN SENT OUT AS
QUICKLY AS IT IS AND IN NEW YORK
THERE IS ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE
VACCINE AVAILABLE TO NEW YORKERS
THAT ARE BEING WAREHOUSED AND
STORED IN THE STUFF ASTRAZENECA
STORES, YOU’LL HAVE TO KEEP IT
AS COLD AS THE VACCINES THAT WE
HAVE RIGHT NOW BUT I AM
WONDERING IF WE DON’T USE THOSE
VACCINES QUICKLY, WILL THEY BE
RUINED?
>> THIS IS AN IMPENDING DISASTER
AND WE ARE NOT USING THESE
VACCINES WE HAVE COME SO FAR
THAT WE GOTTA GET THE SHOTS INTO
PEOPLE’S ARMS AND YOU MAKE A
GREAT POINT THAT ASTRAZENECA
VACCINE STORES STABLY FOR SIX
MONTHS WHEN IT CAN BE
REFRIGERATED.
WE HAVE A LOT MORE WIGGLE ROOM
AND ALSO MUCH MORE CHEAPER THIS
IS SOMETHING THAT ONLY COST
THREE OR $4 A DOSE, THE
ASTRAZENECA VACCINE IS ONE YOU
WILL SEE DEPLOYED ALL OVER THE
WORLD TO MAKE THAT DENT AS YOU
MENTIONED AND I EXPECT TO SEE A
REAL DENT IN CASES STARTING AT
THE END OF MARCH, BEGINNING OF
APRIL WE STILL HAVE A FEW
DIFFICULT MONTHS AHEAD BUT THIS
IS A BRIGHT SPOT MOVING FORWARD.
DAVID: AGAIN I BELIEVE THE
VACCINES WE ARE USING, PFIZER
REALLY HAS TO BE KEPT AT SUBZERO
TEMPERATURE, NOT EVERY FACILITY
CAN KEEP THEM IN ONE OF THOSE
CONTAINERS FOR VERY LONG BUT
THAT ANOTHER GOOD THING ABOUT
ASTRAZENECA NOT THE MESSENGER
RNA TYPE OF VACCINE THAT PEOPLE
ARE WEARY OF.
>> THAT IS RIGHT YOU KNOW THE
SCIENCE BEHIND THESE THINGS,
ASTRAZENECA IS A DNA VACCINE
WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE RNA,
DNA IS MUCH MORE DURABLE AND
THAT’S WHY WE DON’T HAVE TO
HANDLE IT WITH DELICATE
PRECAUTION, IT IS THE VACCINE
THAT IS GOING TO MAKE IT INTO
THE THIRD WORLD AND THE VACCINE
YOU CAN HAVE IN A PHARMACY FOUR
MONTHS THAT ASTRAZENECA VACCINE
WILL BE A HUGE STEP FORWARD FOR
PUBLIC HEALTH AND WILL LIKELY
SEE IT ROLLED OUT IN A FEW
MONTHS THERE WAS DOSING ISSUES
WITH THE INITIAL TRIAL THAT
CONCERNED PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT GO
THROUGH DATA FOR A LIVING WHERE
THEY FOUND A LOWER DOSE HAD A
HIGHER EFFICACY AND THEY WILL
CLARIFY ALL THAT STUFF VERY SOON
AND YOU WILL SEE THIS BE A BIG
BOON FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH
COMMUNITY.
DAVID: I’M GOING TO DRAG YOU
KICKING AND SCREAMING INTO THE
POLITICAL WORLD, I’M SURE YOU
HEARD ABOUT THIS, A JUDGE IN
UPPER NEW YORK STATE THE
GOVERNOR CANNOT CALL FOR
LOCKDOWNS ANYMORE UNLESS HE HAS
A SCIENCE TO BACK IT UP, DO YOU
THINK HE IS GOING TO GET THE
SCIENTIFIC PROOF, A LOT OF
PEOPLE SAY HIS LOCK TOWNS DO NOT
MAKE SENSE SCIENTIFICALLY.
>> YOU DON’T HAVE BE ON YOUR
SHOW TO TALK POLITICS BUT ALWAYS
MY FOOT AND SAY THERE’S NO
EVIDENCE THAT LOCKDOWNS ARE
HELPFUL, THERE IS A LOT OF
DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS THAT CAN
HAPPEN WHETHER MENTAL HEALTH,
ALL KINDS OF BAD THINGS WHERE
PEOPLE DON’T FOLLOW THE RULES
WHEN YOU HAVE A STATE-MANDATED
LOCKDOWN, YOU’RE NOT GOING TO
HAVE THE HARD-CORE SCIENCE TO
SUPPORT THE LOCKDOWN.
DAVID: THEN OF COURSE THE JUDGE
SAID IF YOU DON’T HAVE THE
SCIENCE YOU’RE GONNA HAVE TO
WORK ON COMPROMISE WITH
BUSINESSES I TALKED TO
BUSINESSES SO FAR THE GOVERNOR
HAS NOT BEEN CALLING HE MAY GO
AHEAD NO MATTER WHAT AND
DEFIANCE OF THE JUDGE OR